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The older I get the less I understand you guys . I still understand the Dead Kennedys and Red Gum but not you guys.

As a Green voter and a Lynas shareholder, I would appreciate if Senator Lee Rhiannon took the time to inform herself about the science behind the refinery in Malaysia.

If you are really going to take a position on Thorium 233, it would help to read up on it - Wikipedia is an adequate place to start. Firstly, physical contact with Thorium is not enough to cause cancer. It has to at least be airborne and inhaled. It is not the great toxic hazard that Plutonium or Cesium is. Second, Thorium offers a very appealing alternative to Uranium for nuclear power as it is both more abundant and produces substantially less nuclear wastes. And, it significantly limits the proliferation of nuclear weapons material. Admittedly, we still have a global nuclear waste problem as it seems that reactor sites have become the final destination of nuclear waster regardless of whether that was intended or not. India and China have come on board with plans to build Thorium reactors as a significant portion of their respective nuclear energy programs and India is leading the way. You may be totally against nuclear energy in any form, but it looks as though Lynas's Thorium is a manageable by-product and may even be destined eventually for reactor fuel in India or China. BTW, I don't see how NOT to post anonymously. So what is that all about?

Seems the Greens in Australia have a low-grade intellectual capacity. Obviously Senator Lee Rhiannon doesn't care about the facts, so what's the point? http://en.harakahdaily.net/index.php/letter/3944-lynas-responds-to-radioactive-leakage-claims.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

The people of Malaysia had a very bad experience 25 years ago with Mitsubishi Co. which had a chemical plant not far from the Lynas plant. There were severe spills from that old plant built without any safeguards into the water table and the ocean. Clean up was expensive. I believe they are being extra cautious this time around. Lynas Co. is being very cautious too and practices the most advanced safety methods unlike others. Lets not forget that the rare earth products the Lynas plant produces go into the production of all of the green alternative energy machines: into the magnets of wind energy turbines, the batteries of electric vehicles, solar panels, low energy light bulbs, etc. Lynas provides for all the green companies. Fear is the first counsel to survival and people have their right to fear but should not let ignorance or disinformation guide them. Speaking of the environment without the knowledge of chemistry is disinformation.

The fact of the matter is the way Lynas has built its rare earth plant in Malaysia would NOT be approved nor legal in Australia. It is situated in a mangrove swamp area near a river which is an important mangrove area for Malaysia and only 4km from the South China Sea Worse, Lynas will be discharging its waste water into this river that drains into the South China Sea. Thousands of people depend on the seafood catches of this sea for their livelihoods; children play and bathe at the mouth of the river; coastal and marine tourism are getting more popular nearby. The Lynas project is a direct threat to all things good. Why should we expect the Malaysians to accept such a high impact project which would have been deeemed illegal in Australia?

Wrong again. Anythying above 1 Bq/g is radioactive. It is the same for Australian and Malaysian regulations. Lynas got away with the "non-radioactive" classification due to a regulatory loophole in Australia's transport regulation. This was exposed by the National Toxic Network on 28 Nov 2011. "The ‘tailings’ or waste material from the processing of rare earth ores at Mt Weld into a concentrate, contains 500ppm ThO2 (Thorium Oxide) and 30ppm U3O8 (Uranium Oxide). The calculated radiation specific activity from this combination is 1.80 Bq/g for the Thorium and 0.32 Bq/g for the Uranium which totals 2.12 Bq/g. This is more than twice the threshold radioactivity level set by the Department of Mining and Petroleum for classification as radioactive tailings (‘radioactive’ classification is in excess of 1.0 Bq/g). This regulatory criterion occurs under the Western Australian Mines Safety and Inspection Regulations 1995." "Lynas Corporation have relied on an exemption loophole in the Western Australian transport regulations to allow their concentrate to be shipped from Mt Weld to Fremantle Port (nearly 1000km) without it being classified as radioactive material. The loophole allows the concentrate to be transported without Dangerous Goods classification or ‘radioactive material’ classification due to an exemption clause in the Radiation Safety (Transport of Radioactive Substances) Regulations, WA, 2002 which allows up to 10 Bq/g of specific radioactivity if the product is not destined for production to extract the radioactive elements (uranium and thorium) or if the material is not subject to chemical processing. " Radioactive waste as artificial reef? You gotta be kidding me. I don't think the Australian EPA will even allow that. BTW, according to British standards, Lynas waste is classified as Low Level Waste (LLW) requiring: "robust isolation and containment for periods of up to a few hundred years and is suitable for disposal in engineered near surface facilities" http://wangsamajuformalaysia.blogspot.com/2011/09/permission-for-lynas-to-operate-in.html JinHou

Are you kidding me? Have you compared how it was originally proposed to be done in Australia compared to how it is being done now in Malaysia? http://wangsamajuformalaysia.blogspot.com/2011/09/permission-for-lynas-to-operate-in.html There is not even a permanent waste management plan and a plant decomissioning plan for the plant in Malaysia. Sounds more like sheer carelessness to me... JinHou

a) According to Malaysian and Australian regulation, anything above 1 Bq/g IS radioactive. b) Are you kidding me? The WLP will have a radioactivity level of 6 Bq/g. That'w way higher than background radiation, typically much lower than 1 Bq/g. Do your homework before posting. JinHou

When we have a politician like Lee who cares we have hopes.

If this is the fact that Lynas claim in which their radiation is almost to zero ( O.47msv ) then why need to have radition protection ? It is far lower than those we absorb everyday. Is Lynas telling the truth ?

So what if the Malaysian government cancelled the project? This project was approved furtively back in 2008, with no public consultation whatsoever. The PEIA was approved within 2-3 weeks of submission. The original RIA is never disclosed. Good for the people of Malaysia if the government cancels this project. That will teach unscrupulous investors not to backstab the local population in their mindless pursuit of profit. It will teach investors not to engage in corrupt practices.

The Lynas Advanced Materials Plant in Malaysia is NOT fit for operation. IT has failed most of the tests so far. There is no hope for it to begin operation LET ALONE an early production. The plant is dangerous at it is. Investors' funds are being abused and wasted on a project that is unlikely to come to fruition. Divest now before your share plummet once the truth about the plant becomes public!!!

The Lynas Forum at top stock will ban anyone from the forum if they found that you have negative point about Lynas even though you have facts and telling some truth about Lynas Plant in Malaysia.Worst still they cannot even rebut the your most simplest comment and so paranoid that this will affect their investors, they will ban you without any warning.

Why should Lynas be so paranoid unless it has something to hide! Simon

Rare earth processing is safe? Learn from this terrible situation: http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/asia/july-dec09/china_12-14.html And Lynas said it is using matured Chinese technology from China... how matured is this to smply repeat the horrible mistake of China??? The rare earth plant in Malaysia already had many defects BEFORE it's operational. Lynas continues to lie to its investors and sharehodlers, spending millions in PR spin to try to distort the truth.... how long can Lynas hide from the truth? Divest now if you have Lynas shares...! Don't say that you have not been told next time!!!

The power saving light bulbs, the computer screen you are looking at now, all the computer data world wide,electric cars, smart phones and much more are TOTALLY reliant on rare earths and so is YOUR well being. The modern world can not function with out them. Thorium is naturally occurring in soils and rocks around the world, your vegetables are grown in soil that contains thorium, its unavoidable. Many parts of the world are built in places that can have up to 80 ppm of thorium in the ground with no harm to the residents. It is a NATURAL part of the world we live in, we can't create thorium and we can destroy it; it an element so diluting it to naturally occurring levels would very sensible. The Lynas waste is just dirt. If you flew over to Malaysia from Australia you would be exposed to far more radiation during the flight that you would if you sat on the pile of Lynas waste for a year, so why aren't you protesting about commercial air travel? You wouldn't want to be seen as a hypocrite, would you? Before you all condemn our children's future to a very bleak and black carbon dependent future of misery as fossil are rapidly depleted and sky rocket in price causing massive world poverty YOU must solve the worlds energy problems, get a degree in science or get job with a company that is creating energy saving devices DO something that will improve the future instead of complaining about things you are completely ignorant about for crass political gain . Thorium in these incredibly small quantities are not going to kill anyone but poverty ignorance and YOUR arrogance has the potential to kill millions in the future. DON'T Google stuff until you find somone that agrees with your our ignorance, learn some physics or chemistry, talk to organisation who have the collective wisdom of many life times of studying the natural world in the areas that concern you; make a REAL difference. Don't send us back to dark ages when we were burning witches and neglecting our children's future because irrational fears caused by a few people who desired notoriety and power. We live in the age of reason, be reasonable.

Yes, clean as a whistle mate! http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/moslive/article-1350811/In-China-true-cost-Britains-clean-green-wind-power-experiment-Pollution-disastrous-scale.html#ixzz1g3651dQ4 More racist rubbish from ignorant westerner. Dump the waste in brown people's communities, no worries. "Hidden out of sight behind smoke-shrouded factory complexes in the city of Baotou, and patrolled by platoons of security guards, lies a five-mile wide ‘tailing’ lake. It has killed farmland for miles around, made thousands of people ill and put one of China’s key waterways in jeopardy. This vast, hissing cauldron of chemicals is the dumping ground for seven million tons a year of mined rare earth after it has been doused in acid and chemicals and processed through red-hot furnaces to extract its components." Oh, you forgot to mention this? I thought it was just "dirt"? Do your own research genius. Oh and forgive my arrogance, but I thought that stopping burning fossil fuels was what our future relied ENTIRELY upon. How foolish of me! When really it's flouro lights that will stop climate change! Never mind massive coal expansion, CSG, shale gas and oil, etc etc etc etc etc. Damn those selfish malaysians.