War crimes whistleblower David McBride: ā€˜Iā€™ll eventually win from public supportā€™

September 15, 2023
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David McBride speaking outside Labor's national conference in Meanjin. Photo: Alex Bainbidge
David McBride speaking outside Labor's national conference in Meanjin. Photo: Alex Bainbidge

The clock is ticking for whistleblower David McBride who faces prosecution in November for revealingĀ war crimesĀ by Australian troops in Afghanistan.

Following the 2020Ā Brereton report, in which details of these crimes of are given, military chief Angus CampbellĀ Ā that those responsible would be ā€œheld to accountā€.

Three years later, not one of the perpetrators has been charged andĀ McBride faces jailĀ for revealing war crimes.

More than 70 organisations have joined the campaign toĀ Ā of McBride and tax office whistle blower Richard Boyle.

Attorney General Mark Dreyfus has the power to end the prosecution, as he did last year in the case of Bernard Collaery who helped expose Australian government spying on Timor-Leste.

McBride told aĀ meeting on August 18 that he has no confidence Dreyfus will do that without a lot more public pressure.

ā€œDreyfus would like to drop my case,ā€ McBride said ā€œbecause he doesnā€™t benefit anything from itā€.

ā€œHe can see if I get put in jail, it wonā€™t be that good for himā€ as he would struggle to explain it. ā€œHeā€™s going to get flak and heā€™s not particularly brave.ā€

McBride believes Dreyfus had the same attitude towards the Collaery case. ā€œBut the spooks wouldnā€™t drop itā€ because they wanted to make an example of him.

In McBrideā€™s view, Dreyfus buckled to pressure from the head of the Australian Secret Intelligence Service and was all set to push ahead with the prosecution of Collaery. This only changed after diplomatic pressure from Timor Leste.

McBride believes ā€œthe spooksā€ are equally determined to prosecute him: he is expecting to go to prison.

National security laws limit the evidence McBride is able to bring and mean the court case could be closed ā€” at least in part ā€” to the public and media.

He said national security laws may have been ā€œmade with good intentionsā€ but theyā€™re ā€œmisusedā€ to ā€œput people like me in jail without a fair trialā€.

ā€œThatā€™s why I donā€™t think Iā€™ll win my case.ā€

However, he believes he will ā€œeventually winā€ because people can see that thatā€™s ā€œbullshitā€.

He doesnā€™t think prison is going to be easy and is especially worried about the impact on his children.

ā€œIf your father goes to prison, subconsciously or consciously, they canā€™t help but think you must be a bad person,ā€ he said.

McBride thanked his supporters, who have helped raise awareness about the justice of his cause. ā€œDue to the support of people like you,ā€ his children now see he is in the right. ā€œTheyā€™ll be able to hold their heads up quite high if I go to jail.ā€

McBride is unrepentant about his role in exposing Australiaā€™s war crimes in Afghanistan.

People donā€™t jump to blow the whistle the first time they see some questionable conduct, he said. But when misdeeds accumulate and are covered up, you have no choice. ā€œThe right thing to do is to do your job. Itā€™s not heroic; itā€™s just your job.ā€

He said that those at the top need to take responsibility. ā€œI reckon they knew and, even if they didnā€™t know, how could that not be incompetence?ā€

ā€œThey were all very [good at] pinning medals on people and taking reflected glory when the war was going well, and then when [truths about war crimes] start coming out they all run for cover.

ā€œIā€™m hunting generals not corporals. I respect a lot of the soldiers. Itā€™s my own conscience I have to answer to.ā€

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